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	<title>Comments on: Dungeons &amp; Dragons: Looking For Advice</title>
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		<title>By: Fred Sanford</title>
		<link>http://www.yousephtanha.com/blog/2009/03/17/dungeons-dragons-looking-for-advice/#comment-12177</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Sanford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;steam tunnel incident&#039; has become so bogged down with half truths and bad retelling that it has simply become &#039;the story about that guy who went crazy and went into the tunnels at MSU&#039;.  Sadly, it cheapens the tragic story of James Dallas Egbert III which can be read in full detail in the book &#039;The Dungeon Master&#039; by William Dear.

In the late 70&#039;s there were many colleges that had groups of students playing D&amp;D &#039;for real&#039; in the steam tunnels below most universities.  In particular, at Michigan State University is where James went in many times to enact a live version of D&amp;D...At times with others but mostly by himself.  It was also the main target of the investigation into his disappearance by Detective Dear.

The Mazes &amp; Monsters book came out after Egbert was found and is a fictional novel based loosely upon that story.  There are other stories and books that &#039;blamed&#039; D&amp;D for many anti-social behaviours, some of the worst damage being done by Patricia Pullings group BADD (Bothered About Dungeons &amp; Dragons).  The late Pat Pulling pretty much was involved in a self serving crusade to warn people about the dangers and possible &#039;demonic&#039; possession, but this was all hype and in the end it was a bit of a sad joke that she kept trying to get media attention with her hysterics over D&amp;D.  I really suggest reading the book The Dungeon Master if you are interested, its an insightful, yet tragic, story of one of our fellow gamers that, in the end, couldnt seem to work things out in his short life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;steam tunnel incident&#8217; has become so bogged down with half truths and bad retelling that it has simply become &#8216;the story about that guy who went crazy and went into the tunnels at MSU&#8217;.  Sadly, it cheapens the tragic story of James Dallas Egbert III which can be read in full detail in the book &#8216;The Dungeon Master&#8217; by William Dear.</p>
<p>In the late 70&#8242;s there were many colleges that had groups of students playing D&amp;D &#8216;for real&#8217; in the steam tunnels below most universities.  In particular, at Michigan State University is where James went in many times to enact a live version of D&amp;D&#8230;At times with others but mostly by himself.  It was also the main target of the investigation into his disappearance by Detective Dear.</p>
<p>The Mazes &amp; Monsters book came out after Egbert was found and is a fictional novel based loosely upon that story.  There are other stories and books that &#8216;blamed&#8217; D&amp;D for many anti-social behaviours, some of the worst damage being done by Patricia Pullings group BADD (Bothered About Dungeons &amp; Dragons).  The late Pat Pulling pretty much was involved in a self serving crusade to warn people about the dangers and possible &#8216;demonic&#8217; possession, but this was all hype and in the end it was a bit of a sad joke that she kept trying to get media attention with her hysterics over D&amp;D.  I really suggest reading the book The Dungeon Master if you are interested, its an insightful, yet tragic, story of one of our fellow gamers that, in the end, couldnt seem to work things out in his short life.</p>
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		<title>By: Youseph</title>
		<link>http://www.yousephtanha.com/blog/2009/03/17/dungeons-dragons-looking-for-advice/#comment-8730</link>
		<dc:creator>Youseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to Juneau Josh. Good luck finding a group. Let me know if i can be of help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Juneau Josh. Good luck finding a group. Let me know if i can be of help.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.yousephtanha.com/blog/2009/03/17/dungeons-dragons-looking-for-advice/#comment-8727</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey man intresting stuff ill check out rainy retreats for sure im from prince of wales island about three hundred miles south of juneau give or take and i just moved here im looking for a group off players to join altough i prefer version 3.0 id be happy to learn the newer version something you may want to look into is the newly published 3.75 many of the players from POW hated 4.0 for whatever reason so i never got a chance to look it over however the 3.75 system got an extremly warm reception it is very symilar to 3.5 but all the classes and races have been revamped i recomend at leaste glancing through it you mat like what you find if you wnat to get ahold of me you should look for me on myspace as i dont use my email all that often just search for joshua craske and if theres more than one select the one with the most recent login anyone reading this is free to find me there in search of new players for the juneau-douglas area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey man intresting stuff ill check out rainy retreats for sure im from prince of wales island about three hundred miles south of juneau give or take and i just moved here im looking for a group off players to join altough i prefer version 3.0 id be happy to learn the newer version something you may want to look into is the newly published 3.75 many of the players from POW hated 4.0 for whatever reason so i never got a chance to look it over however the 3.75 system got an extremly warm reception it is very symilar to 3.5 but all the classes and races have been revamped i recomend at leaste glancing through it you mat like what you find if you wnat to get ahold of me you should look for me on myspace as i dont use my email all that often just search for joshua craske and if theres more than one select the one with the most recent login anyone reading this is free to find me there in search of new players for the juneau-douglas area.</p>
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		<title>By: Dungeons &#38; Dragons: Mazes and Monsters @ Youseph Tanha Dot Com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dungeons &#38; Dragons: Mazes and Monsters @ Youseph Tanha Dot Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 02:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote in an older post that I learned about the movie &#8220;Mazes and Monsters&#8220;. It&#8217;s a 1982 movie about a group of college students and their interest in a fictitious role-playing game (RPG) of the same name staring Tom Hanks. The film was adapted from a novel of the same name by Rona Jaffe. Jaffe had based her 1981 novel on inaccurate newspaper stories about the disappearance of James Dallas Egbert III from Michigan State University in 1979. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote in an older post that I learned about the movie &#8220;Mazes and Monsters&#8220;. It&#8217;s a 1982 movie about a group of college students and their interest in a fictitious role-playing game (RPG) of the same name staring Tom Hanks. The film was adapted from a novel of the same name by Rona Jaffe. Jaffe had based her 1981 novel on inaccurate newspaper stories about the disappearance of James Dallas Egbert III from Michigan State University in 1979. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: vmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>vmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thoughts, you&#039;re bringing back lots of memories for me while you&#039;re at it.  My theory on why little about learning d&amp;d is published, it&#039;s still got a stigma of antisocial geek (like that James Dallas Egbert III kid).

Years ago, when my mom heard about &quot;some kid in the town just down the way started casting &#039;spells&#039; and &#039;curses&#039; on his mother, eventually going mad and killing his whole family...&quot; because he played D&amp;D, she took away and hid the set (d&amp;d basic starter kit, with the dice you had to color with white crayon INCLUDED) she gave me herself only weeks earlier.

btw, i took it back when i found it, sorry mom.

Dragonlance was _made_ for d&amp;d campaigns, every dm I&#039;ve played with had a favorite character or story to base his campaigns on.  (My fave was &#039;Raistlin Majere&#039;) Wikipedia has an awesome list of all of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_Dragonlance_characters

...and I still remember the story that got me wanting to dm to play it out in d&amp;d:
http://www.amazon.com/Dragonwing-Death-Gate-Cycle-1/dp/B001OLRMUA/ref=pd_sim_kinc_4
It&#039;s not Dragonlance, technically, but is written by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman (you _have_ to read the whole deathgate cycle to get the full story though, so kinda long)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts, you&#8217;re bringing back lots of memories for me while you&#8217;re at it.  My theory on why little about learning d&amp;d is published, it&#8217;s still got a stigma of antisocial geek (like that James Dallas Egbert III kid).</p>
<p>Years ago, when my mom heard about &#8220;some kid in the town just down the way started casting &#8216;spells&#8217; and &#8216;curses&#8217; on his mother, eventually going mad and killing his whole family&#8230;&#8221; because he played D&amp;D, she took away and hid the set (d&amp;d basic starter kit, with the dice you had to color with white crayon INCLUDED) she gave me herself only weeks earlier.</p>
<p>btw, i took it back when i found it, sorry mom.</p>
<p>Dragonlance was _made_ for d&amp;d campaigns, every dm I&#8217;ve played with had a favorite character or story to base his campaigns on.  (My fave was &#8216;Raistlin Majere&#8217;) Wikipedia has an awesome list of all of them: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_Dragonlance_characters" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_major_Dragonlance_characters</a></p>
<p>&#8230;and I still remember the story that got me wanting to dm to play it out in d&amp;d:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dragonwing-Death-Gate-Cycle-1/dp/B001OLRMUA/ref=pd_sim_kinc_4" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Dragonwing-Death-Gate-Cycle-1/dp/B001OLRMUA/ref=pd_sim_kinc_4</a><br />
It&#8217;s not Dragonlance, technically, but is written by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman (you _have_ to read the whole deathgate cycle to get the full story though, so kinda long)</p>
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		<title>By: Dungeons &#38; Dragons: A Brief History @ Youseph Tanha Dot Com</title>
		<link>http://www.yousephtanha.com/blog/2009/03/17/dungeons-dragons-looking-for-advice/#comment-1749</link>
		<dc:creator>Dungeons &#38; Dragons: A Brief History @ Youseph Tanha Dot Com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] To Be Continued&#8230;   Books, Games, How To, Personal Dave Arneson, Dungeons &amp; Dragons, Gary Gygax, H.G. Wells    &#160; [...]</description>
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